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Chief Justice John Roberts - that sounds great. If you really had ANY power or were actually in the majority you could block his appointment, but it's not going to happen. You are a bunch of pacifist bitches and that is why you should thank God every day that someone is leading this country who will still protect a bunch of ignorant braying jennies who I'll never, ever trust to protect me or my family. The man you ran for president is a cowardice liar who faked injuries because he is a little sissy bitch like you stupid freaks. My entire family is blue collar democrats and the easiest way to get a charge from them is to print the nonsense from this sight and make them read it. GUESS WHAT YOU FRICKEN IDIOTS? It's embarassing to them and they know you are a bunch of freaks as well. Please, Please keep this going. You're the best player on our team.

As the bumper sticker on the front of my car reads - Run Hillary, Run!

Go to patriothomeland.us to see who really controls this country. Ever play risk?

My stock in Halliburton went from 33 dollars a share to over 62 dollars a share. I'm not sure if you know this or not you bunch of dults but Halliburton is a PUBLICALLY traded stock and anyone who has a JOB and money can choose to invest. That way I get rich along with Dick Chaney, President Bush and all of their friends. I love this country!

Because I've made so much money on my Halliburton stock I took the last ten days off and volunteered to cook for the evacuees that ended up in my state. You'll be happy to know I'm back to the office today (where I use slugs like you to get richer) and all of the citizens who ended up in our care have been placed in really nice homes and apartments, depending on their age and size of family and ALL have employment or job training opportunities. I hired a displaced citizen in my company, he seems greatful, respectful and in complete disagreement of your spin on this disaster and who is really to blame. Fortunately for him, he landed in a red city and not some democrat fiefdom crap hole.

If you removed all the Blue State income from the US you'd have the third world backwater that you'd surely LOVE. No Red State contributes more to the Federal budget than they take -- embarassing ain't it.

What a minute! I thought the republicans had all the money. You people are just too stupid to remember your previous lie.

I can certainly see why your newly hired displaced worker would agree with you. If I worked for you I am sure I'd agree with you -- I'm not that stupid.


Let's see if we were dividing up the country, we get New York, New Jersey, California, Maryland, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington, Vermont, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania (that's not even the whole list) and the remaining US loses:
Most of its Software Business
Most of its Electronics Manufacturing
Most of its Auto Industry
Its Commercial Aviation Industry
Its Bio Technology Industry
Its Entertainment Industry
A large chunk of its Financial Service Industry
Its Major Equity Markets
Its Major Commodities Market
Most of the Federal Laboratories

You get to keep Wal-Mart
You Get to keep Enron
You Get to keep Mountain top mining
You get to return to using all those lovely chemicals that Tom Delay used to use.


You know, this is fun -- perhaps we will wise up and put you Red Staters out of our misery. Of course, that would be contrary to the Liberal desire to help the least of our breathren (where have I heard this before?)

You can call it a lie if you want; I expect that you will but these are the facts (and I left some missed some states).

Certainly there are plenty of greedy people around; many are Repubs. However, it seems the successful and Rich are often Open Minded enough to be Liberal (think George Soros and Warren Buffett).

Rothgar:

"dividing up the county" is almost the only thing you do well. Let me tell you something shit for brains. We're not dividing ANYTHING , you'll get nothing but a free ticket to Canada and a swift kick in the ass.

George Soros derives his income from plundering the economies of small countries, his nickname is dracula. What you are basically saying is that it's OK to be a thieving, crook as long as you are a democrat, at least he's in good company.

You can't even win an election. WE control the executive, legislative and soon to be the judicial branches of the government. You couldn't kick me out of anything.

Your a know nothing blow hard who is destined to be on the losing team.

So, you are willing to take complete responsibility for everything the Government does and/or doesn't do?

If not, SHUT the $#@$ UP and listen, you might just learn something!

If you've got the balls to accept responsibility for the actions of your selected leaders, I hope you enjoy watching the USA turned into a debt riddled puppet of the Chinese and Indians.

Adding 2 Trillion in Debt is NOT a sign of strength (unless you are Enron or Worldcom).

BTW: A 2x Win on a Stock (HAL) hardly makes you a genius. I've sold 3 or 4 - 2x or better winners this year alone. Just this week, I did a 2X on a bet that Bush's economic plan sucks for retailers -- Guess what that 2X says I'm right.

As I recall the main economy Soros "plundered" was Margeret Thatcher's England == right wingers are such easy pickings.

I pity the folks you employ.

Rotbrain:

3 or 4, wow those are really big numbers. I'm not surprised you can't remember whether it was 3 or 4. His plan may suck, but unfortunately for you, LOSER, your leadership is nothing but a spineless bunch of braying jennies who are laughing at you while sipping martinis with their republican friends.

Don't threaten me!

Perhaps it's time for you to shut UP.

rotbrains:

Make me loser! You're insignificant to me. Nothing you say matters, it won't change anything, you're still on the losing team.

In a recent Gallop poll

50% of America prefers Congressional Democrats to Republicans. 38% prefer Republicans.
58% of America disapproves of the job Bush is doing as president.
Looking pretty good in 2006 and 2008. You are Right we need more aggressive leadership.

I may not remember precisely how many winners I've had this year, but they are paying an elite College education for my oldest. Ciao!

Your team may have managed to steal the last few elections but it sure looks like your team is going down.
I'd rather be right and on God's side than win on your team.

BTW If you agree with Bush and are in the age range (17 to 43) why haven't you volunteered -- chicken??

Rotbrain:

Keep living in your "poll" fantasy. John McCain 2008.

They just raised the maximum age for service in the guard from 36 to 1 day BEFORE your fortieth birthday. For full time service the maximum age is even lower. I'm over forty and not eligible to enlist or your right, I would. In fact I ask if I could sign some sort of waiver because I'm very fit for my age and could easily make it through boot camp. They said NO, no exceptions even though there are many men and women over forty serving. So, I don't know where you came up with your age range, but once again, you are wrong. Dumbass: look up the number for the local recruiting office in the yellow pages, it's under recruiting - U.S. Armed Services, call the number and ask the max age instead of parroting another one of the misinformed lefist miscreants on this site. I'm sure you're too lazy and stupid to accomplish that simple task, and too much of a Chicken, to admit you were wrong.

Well we are soooo... sorry that you can't participate in the fools errand that you appear to support.

Of course if you were truly dedicated to the cause you'd lie about your age and try anyway. I served with a guy on the USS Iwo Jima who'd lied about his age to enter the Navy before age 17-1/2. My father-in-law did something similar so he could join the Corp before his 18th birthday.

Anyway, I was wrong to cite the age range up to 43 (I'll bet if you were in a critical MOS or had equivalent civilian skills they'd waiver the age limit) and in fact they will. For example, Army News states: "The idea came from the Army Reserve’s translator aide program. That program admits Arab linguists to the service up to age 41." Guess you need an Arabic course -- send me your address I'll send you one free.

strong>Nonetheless, you are correct that the maximum age to join the Guard age isn't 43 -- at least not yet.

There are you happy
Being right about one detail does not entitle you to be abusive, but I guess that's the only way you can communicate -- pity.

I thought the demographics of this weekends' protest and counter protest were most ery instructive.

The anti-war folks estimated they'd get a crowd of 100,000 -- the DCPD agreed that they got at least 150,000 (GSMfP estimated the crowd at 300.000).

The anti-war, pro-Bush folks had expected a crowd of 20,000 they got 200 to 400. That's 1 or 2% of their estimate. Oops

Doesn't sound real good for your side CHEIF. And remember DC is a town with a LARGE military and military retiree population.

I notice that you are supporting a candidate for 2008 who in 2000 was deemed traitorous by loyal Republicans (like my father in law) for allegedly revealing information under NVA torture.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Right now the Bush White House is shielding a traitor of their own.

I realize that 43 is a bit older than the NG will accept -- My bad

I am sure Kellogg Brown and Root could find a position for someone as obiviously skilled and talented as you. I doubt they would be that concerned by your age.

Since KBR is doing what so many troops did in Vietnam. Accordingly, I'd accept a tour with KBR as service.

There you GO NO EXCUSES -- JUST DO IT!!

I actually think getting more from the feds than donating is rather smart not at all embarrassing.

Yes, but, it is hypocritical to claim that taxation is theft, do everything you can to eliminate welfare, and reduce taxes as low as possible, and then to get more back in benefits than you're state paid in taxes.

It is also because the people in Red States are needier due to lower economic status and lower educational level - which explains why they vote Republican.

I strongly agree with Mrs. Bush. It's very scary to have a group who are in poverty and in third and forth generation welfare because they have been lied to, used and victimized by the racist democrat party. Landing in a state where personal responsibility, discipline and self control is the way of life is culture shock to people who are used to being told they need the government to provide for them is very scary. Ray Naggin and the democrats have stolen from these people and raped them of their dignity in order to maintain the power. I'm scared for anyone who would follow or support a lying, thieving communist like Hillary Clinton.

I have a great campaign slogan.

HILLARY CLINTON - NASTY SHREW BITCH FOR PRESIDENT: My husband doesn't want me, maybe you do.

I really want some spineless chick who has let her husband walk all over and absolutely humiliate her lead my country. No wonder so many stupid women stay with abusive, philandering womanzers, Hillary is their poster child.

God, antiamericanillierate, you are frickin' hillarious. You've done an excellent job of memorizing Boilbutt Limpballs propaganda. (Or, do you just cut and paste them?)

I never ever listen to rush limbaugh. I think he is a pompous ass pill popper. You overflow with ignorant assumptions.

Liberal Fund Raising - FARM AID - only 28% of the money actually went to the people who the liberal elitist entertainers claim the money is being raised for, they spent the rest on themselves.

Conservative Fund Raising - NFLPA - 100% of the proceeds going to the victims of Katrina.

I've got a challenge for you Goof: I'll identify myself and give you a way to contact me, you can join me at the soup kitchen where I volunteer and then I'll come to where you live and help you wherever you volunteer. I'm so very confident that there is no such place for you. You're probably fat!

Goof:

What does illierate spell? I don't recognize that word. At least your consistent, you make up facts and words.

My mother, who I completely disagree with most of the time, is a precinct committee person for the democrat party, a God fearing Christian, sits on the board for Habitat for Humanity, is in 2 other philanthropic organizations and a very very active and vocal supporter of the democrat party has asked me to please, please stop sending me writings of "those people" - meaning you, it makes her sick. She is horrified that someone in her sacred party would stoop to the level of disparaging someone's mother for ANY reason. No class is her label of you. I love it!

The only thing which has upset her more is when I remind her that she is on the same team as NAMBLA!

The democrat party platform - If we don't succeed at killing your baby, we'll molest it!

WoW! 1917 signatures at Cindythepuppetsheehan.com

That's pathetic, check out how many signatures prosecutekerry.com has and you will realize who holds the majority.

Oh, did I remember to tell you our Supreme Commander is going to install two, yes two justices to the Supreme Court.

antiamericanilliterate:

I have no interest in knowing you. I know all I need to know about you.

George Bush is a liar. You support George Bush. therefore, you are immoral or amoral. Like George Bush, you lie for personal advantage. Only a fool would take anything you say as truthful.

You are spouting Boilbutt Limpballs talking points. You don't have a mother who is a Democrat. You don't volunteer to help anyone. You are greedy. You enjoy knocking people to the ground and climbing on top of them because it inflates your already over-inflated sense of self-importance.

How do I know these things about you? Because these are the characteristics of your leader, George W. Bush.

The truly sad part is that you will feign insult even though you know the above is not only true, but, you are proud of it because you do everything you can to emulate the evil George W. Bush.

You must really hate having one Democrat Senator and a racist Republican Senator who victimizes poor people by giving them handouts that make them lazy. If you don't believe me, go to his website where you will see that he is bragging about all of the handouts he's giving out.

I look forward to your next pathetic screed. As Art Linkletter used to say, "Laughter is the best medicine." You are adding years to my life. Keep up the good work.

Goof: MY useful little fool.

Just like most of your hateful diatribe, you cannot back any of the above with proof. It's more of your juvenile assumptions. EVERYTHING I said about my mother is ABSOLUTELY true. She works for one of the most Liberal institution, Indiana University, in one of the most liberal towns in the US - Bloomington, IN. EVERYONE in my immediate family are democrats, including me until I voted for Clinton, I was a Reagan democrat. Fiscal conservative, social liberal. You don't want to know me because the truth hurts-scum like you has ruined the democrat party. Let me use your inane logic: Ranking minority democrat Leahy, Kohl & Fengold ALL support the president in his choice for Chief Justice. They are democrats, they support the president, anyone who supports Bush is immoral, therefore they are immoral - yet democrat. Does that make you immoral because you are a democrat?

Yes, you are correct. Leahy, Kohl, and Feingold are immoral scum.

Reagan Democrat? You are a liar. You have never been a Democrat. Carter worked to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Reagan and your buddies ridiculed Carter for wearing a sweater in the White House. When Reagan moved into the White House, one of his first actions was to remove the solar collectors from the White House roof that were put up by Carter.

I look forward to your response in which you spout the Republican propaganda that Reagan was a great president and Carter a loser. Sorry, but, it doesn't wash. So, don't bother. You'll only make a bigger fool of yourself.

Goof: My useful fool loser.

So basically anyone, even a democrat, who doesn't walk lock step with you on all issues, is a scumbag. The only thing I feel for you is pity. You're so stupid that you don't realize any statement you make about me is out of complete ignorance, which is at least consistent with most of what you say. So all the rhetoric about the dems being unified is more lies.


It's so easy to trap dimwits like you into indefensable positions. I can't wait til your party trots out your candidate for president who voted for the confirmation of John Roberts. Than what will you do you friggin idiot? You'll do what most liberal scum does, talk out of the other side of your mouth. I'll bet you any amount of money, the dem who runs for president in 08, will have voted to confirm Roberts.

I would equate you with leaders like Hitler, Stalin and your friend Saddam. They too were sociopaths who thought in absolute terms.

Clinton has become friends with Bush senior, they have planned a fishing trip together, so Clinton must be a scumbag as well. So if Bill Clinton is a scumbag, and he's married to Hillary that makes her a scumbag as well.

Goof, your just too stupid to realize that I can find ANY democrat you name agreeing with or voting with the republicans on some issue, therefore any dem who ever supports a republican nominee or bill, is scum. So basically every democrat is a scum and that makes you scum too.

AAIlliterate:

Your graffiti littered all over this website simply demonstrates how childish you are. You may be even more immature than your leader, George W. Bush.

Antiamericanliberal,

I have watched this web site for years and ever so often a jerk like you will post a lot of gibberish. The trick is to post a lot of erroneous facts that are impossile to debate. I guess you have no life and therefore nothing else to do. I will tell you what I have told the others. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. You have not impressed anyone. You have only made an ass of yourself.

theoldman:

"The trick is to post a lot of erroneous facts that are impossile to debate."

That's your format, not mine.

"I guess you have no life and therefore nothing else to do."

Wrong again, at least you are consistent. I have plenty to do. I do more in a day than you probably do in a week. You people are so very limited it takes very little effort to respond to your blather. Actually, I've thought about having my 10 year old debate you to make things more fair. Except it didn't take me long to realize, he's smarter than most of you.

"Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Wow, that's original. How long did it take you little old pea brain to remember that tired old cliche. In fact that should be you party slogan:

Democrats - The tired old cliche party.

Your trick seems to be as abusive and venomous as possible - I'm neither impressed nor intimidated.

I presume you accept responsiblity for everything that this administration has done. I never saw your reply to that question. Do you accept responsiblilty for the results of their actions?

If not, stop arguing for their positions.
If so, good luck GOD IS WATCHING

oldman:

Haven't you noticed? For the last several weeks, the Republican spin has been, "Democrats and liberals are hateful." So, we've got a nice crop of little Bush Cult Dupes coming here in a pathetic attempt to get us to buy into the Bush Cult propaganda.

Give it a few more days or weeks and they will give up or they'll have new propaganda line they'll try to push on us.

Some things never change. The only people left supporting Bush are the truly desperate and pitiful creatures who are addicted to licking Bush's boots. They won't give up their addiction because their egos and identity are so tied up in spending their lives on all fours licking those boots, that they think life won't be worth living when Bush is in prison and they can't lick his boots anymore.

So, oldman, don't be so hateful and mean. Cut them some slack. They desrerve our pity more than our contempt.

ANTIAMERICANLIBERAL, MR OXYMORON WHO PUT THE OXY BACK IN OXYMORON, I'M JUST ALOVING SEEING HOW STUPID YOU RIGHT WING JACKASSES ARE! MY PATERNAL GRAND FATHER WOULD HAVE HARSHER WORDS FOR YOUR KIND, BUT WHAT THE HELL, I'M SO EASY GOING ANYWAY!

ahgold:

WHAT? Is that supposed to mean something. Your unintelligible diatribe is mind numbing.

You put the mor into Moron.

It's very very scary. The evacuees that ended up in our state were, for the most part, rude, ungrateful, thieving, lazy drug addicts. They stole red cross supplies which had been collected for other victims. They were verbally abusive to many of the volunteers and used the cell phones they were given to make drug deals.

Rothgar:

You simply don't understand what is going on.

The media are all a bunch of liberal liars. They do secret polls so they know in advance who to poll that will spin the public poll in favor of the liberal cabal.

I watched both the Pro-Peace and the Pro-War rallys. One of the speakers explained what is going on. He said that there were more pro-peace people because the pro-war people have to work for a livng. That was just before he said he wanted to shove a flage poll up Cindy's ass.

Now, you understand? The media is a vast left wing conspiracy. You know, that's how we got into Iraq. They distorted the news and told a bunch of lies because the liberals desperately wanted a war so that they could kill people. Geroge Bush is a fine Christian man of peace. who was just fooled by the very convincing left wing media war conspiracy.

Geoff:

You're partly right! It's abc, cbs, nbc and cnn which are very left leaning as well as pbs and npr. In this day and age polls are virtually useless and the reason no one showed for the pro-war contingent is there are only a few people wouldn't rather be doing something more useful. We went to Iraq to correct a previous mistake and take the war to their turf.

You are missing an opportunity to put your money where your mouth is.

While the NG can only take you up to age 40, I'll bet if you can drive a truck or work in a kitchen KBR would hire you and pay you quite well for going to Iraq.

Enjoy.

Oh I see! Thanks for the enlightenment.

All those companies whose main profits come from selling expensive weapons systems (most of which are useless in Iraq), who keep media whores (ulp?@! -- outlets) for the diversification (having a handy propaganda outlet doesn't hurt either) are really letting their media pets conspire to hurt their main businesses.

I guess this logic works in Bushworld.

Interesting that the right would trot out the "they are working and can't protest" canard on a Saturday. They don't even have High School football as an excuse - most local high school teams play friday night and the Terps played in Winston Salem. With all the ex-military (my ex co-workers) in the DC Metro area who work for Beltway bandits it surprises me that they couldn't find more warm bodies.

There are more than 500 GOP staffers on the hill.

I'll bet they really beleived they get more than 500 people.

Hard to rig a poll like this though.

anti-american, I was talking to Rothgar. When I want to talk to you, I will use your name. Didn't you know, anti-american, that it is rude to butt into a conversation where you are not invited?

As I was explaining it to you earlier, I will use your name, anti-american, when I want to address you. Then you can respond.

Sorry, but, the guy on the stage said that no one showed up because the pro-war people have to work and the pro-peace people don't.

If you don't like it, take it up with him. Since he was on the stage at the event, he is better qualified to know why people didn't show up than you.

In other words, don't argue with me about it. I'm just the messenger.

Sorry I got my response out of order with your insightful enlightening explaination of the reason that Polls are worthless -- unless they are in the Ukraine.

Andrew:

These COB Cult Kool-aid addicts are kind of fun. It is so easy to get them running around in circle. But, it does get boring rather quickly. It pretyy quickly devolves to the entertainment value of watching paint dry. They just keep repeating the same old tired prpaganda that Rush Limpballs helped them memorize.

Although, now that they are getting stomped in the polls and in every other way, they get really agitated and that is kind of fun.

You’re saying we just keep saying the same thing

"Cult Kool-aid addicts "

"Rush Limpballs"

Let me make you aware of something We don't care what the polls say!

We all know that you wish Kerry were president making decisions based on polls. However we have a President who is a leader. Bush is a leader who has the balls to make tough decisions....decision that may not be popular.

Is that how you think the country should be run by polls?

The Democrats have a real problem....your party is fragmented in a serious way. Do you agree with that?
Are you content having Dean at the head of the DNC?

Do you think you could beat a Republican ticket like McCain /Giuliani?

Look forward to your response!

blue dress:

Let me respond for Goof. Your a cult kool aid addict who is regurgitating boilbut limpballs talking points he has you memorize. blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahlbhalbqhalabhlahbalahblahblahhhhh!!

Let's recap. They can't answer any question you ask them. They think in terms of absolute, like the typical socopath and when they don't agree they attack. They believe the country should be run by polls until the majority asks for something they don't believe in and then they tell us, trust us, we know best. That's why the welfare recipients evacuees ended up in their plight, it's the path people like Goof leads them down.

Blue Dress:

We've already taken over this site but we're way over qualified to accomplish such an easy task. We should have recruited two monkeys and a jackass.

Do you have any more questions? Such as how large a margin you'll lose by in 2008 if your side doesn't declare martial law and order in the army to pull off a coup?

So this site is a joke.

That's what you really believe, that the republican party in the next election is going to declare martial law.

Maybe you are not joking, I don't know. It's hard to tell with the liberals anymore.

Your comment about Bush being a leader has been proved wrong to America by his limp ineffective response to Hurricaines Katrina and Rita.

Your comment about not caring about polls has been proved wrong over and over again by the actions of the Bush adminstration. If they didn't care about polls why would someone in the White House or Navy Observatory (the VP residence) commit treason by outing a CIA agent to smear a political opponent. Try a little logic -- it's refreshing.

Oh yeah we have the 7 Gulf States flyovers and the Micheal Brown counter attack as further proof. He's trying to find a photo-op in this mess. So far no luck.

Do you really think the GOP would ever solidify behind a McCain/Guilani ticket?

First of all you've got many loyal Republicans who beleive McCain is a traitor because of his actions in the Hanoi Hilton. Before you attack me, I got this from my father-in-law who's voted for every Republican Presidential candidate since 1952 (when he was first eligible).

Then you've got Rudi Guilani who was subject to a very ugly, very public divorce as well as his association with B. Kerack. On top of all that he is Pro-Choice which would make for an interesting issue at the 2008 GOP convention.

I don't see this ticket happening.

I'm not sure the Democrats are any more fracious then ever. Remember what Will Rodgers said about us. Actually I see unprecedented levels of cooperation.

I think we need to follow the wisdom of Truman circa 1948 and head left. Being GOP lite will not work, but the DLC doesn't seem to understand. I expect Dean will move in this direction once he's gotten the important work of reinvigorating local and state Democrats well under way.

If we go left, we must explain why the things we are proposing are good for Americans. They are and we can explain why - if we get half a chance. Winning as a consequence of the thoroughly documented corruption of the Bush Administration will not yield a very useful political coalition. Building on dissatisfaction with Bush and explaining how we can do better will produce a useful governing coalition.

The problem you face is fundamentally the Post-Reagan GOP economic philosphy do not work! Nobel prize or not -- it does not work. I may not be a Phd Economist but I am an MS Engineer and I can work the numbers and they don't add up.

Borrow and spend doesn't work especially if you are giving the money primarily to people who by definition do not NEED any more money. A definition of being rich is having all the money you can think of spending. Most of the additional funds you give to these folks gets invested and not necessarily in the US. Tax breaks for business will not induce a business to spend money if there isn't any market demand. Good business managers will not go and spend big bucks on things if they don't have a sales to justify their investments. Certainly none of the companies I've worked for randomly invested simply to get a tax break. They might moderate their plans to make them more tax-advantaged but there has to be a sound business reason for an investment. In fact, I beleive that the IRS can/will reject expense deductions that have no business justification.

The failure of Borrow and Spend explains why we are overspending our revenues by approximately 3% GDP (the Federal Deficit) and seeing a 3.2-3.4%% annual GDP growth. Subtract the Federal Deficit out of the growth rate and you get a vanishingly small growth rate. Reverse the DOL acceleration factors out of the GDP growth estimates and you will see why Americans are not feeling particularily sanguine (the result is [or could be - I haven't run the numbers any further] negative even in 2005.

I know AAL is about to attack me for negativism and claim how wonderfully he's doing. If so, why does he have so much time to argue on this site. Also attack number 2 is to look at how much better we are doing than the Europeans. Of course, what would our GDP growth rate look like if the hedonic adjustments were reversed (not particularily good). The use of Hedonic multipliers is NOT unique to the Bush administration.

This topic deserves a book -- or at least a long analytical treatment, but I've got too much work to do on other important projects right now.

Ciao

Oh never imagined that I would actually get an answer back of any substance. I just wanted to be called...you guessed it "Cult Kool-aid addict "

Well, girls. Miss Blue Stained Dress and Miss Anti-American, you really put me in my place didn't you. I think I'll go to bed and cry myself to sleep.

I just can't stand it. You guys don't like me? Wahhhhh Wahhhhh Wahhhhh. I'm crying now. Oops, I just poopied my pants.

Stop being mean to me. You're even bigger poop-head bullies than George Bush.

Is that how you think the country should be run by polls?

The Democrats have a real problem....your party is fragmented in a serious way. Do you agree with that?
Are you content having Dean at the head of the DNC?

Do you think you could beat a Republican ticket like McCain /Giuliani?

Look forward to your response!

See my reply titled 2008 Ticket (it seems to have gotten out of order with you question. It's 4 postings above your question.

Miss Stain:

You are pathetic. Give it up.

Are you kidding.....that's your response to civil and engaging questions?

"You are pathetic?"

I thought I would try and stop all these viscous personal attacks by starting an interesting discussion but that's your response?

Would you prefer that I attack you personally is this what this site is all about?

Really?

Miss Stain:

It is impossible to have a civil conversation when you name is an attack. Change your name and apologize for chossing that name in the first place and then there will be a possibility of a civil conversation.

Rothgar:

I think that the left should bloody up Giuliani by running ads reminding people that Giuliani is not only an adulterer, but that he rubbed his wife and the county's nose in it by taking his adulterous whore girl friend with him to official events.

I'd also use the pictures of Giulian in drag in commercials to run in the Bible belt.

In other words, go after Giuliani and destroy his reputation among Republcians by reminding people what a piece of crap his is. And, according to the Church of Bush crowd that hang out here, it was perfectly OK for Bush to lie about McCain and Kerry in the last election cycle, so, I see no reason to limit ourselved to facts. We should use the Karl Rove tactic: Make up lies and repeat them over and over again until people believe them.

p. s. I'd also do mailings to the "pro life" Republcans reminding them that Giuliani supports murdering babies and to the bigot Republicans reminding them that Giuliani likes queers.

Geoff:

I entirely agree with your suggestions about trashing Guilani. I do have two minor points.

1. Aren't the lies that you've made up about Guilani actually a reasonable spin on the truth? If that's the truth, what kind of lies can we make up? Do we need to make up anything or will the truth do?

2. I'd hold fire until Guilani has become the VP nominee unless you think that once the Bushies are told who their VP is they won't listen to any bad news about their man.

One thing that I think will be happening over the next couple years is the public (if not private) replacement of Dick Cheney as VP. This last weekends' surguries may be prologue to this fugue. The GOP really doesn't want to run for an open White House -- it's too risky.

Of course, should Karl Rove become bete noir (I don't think he can be sent away since Bush has the pardon) such subtle ploys (so to speak) from the GOP may past history. Actually if we are at war shouldn't Karl Rove (if indicted and convicted) be defending himself against execution? Isn't treason in wartime a capital offense? An argument could be made that the Presidents announcement in front of a Joint Session of congress consitituted an Ad hoc declaration of war. Hmm?!

No. You need to hit Giuliani full force and destroy him now. At the moment, he is a potent fund raiser for the Republicans. And, by the time he had the GOP nimination, his narrative would already be established.

Your point about VP is well-taken. That's another reason to go after Giuliani now. We don't need Cheney resigning and Bush appointing Giuliani VP.

Bush is destroying the Republican Party by his hard-right incompetent crook administration. The Republican Party would have been better off if Bush had lost the 2004 election.

The only way to save the Republican Party is for Cheney to resign and for Bush to appoint a little bit less looney Republican such as McCain or Giuliani as VP. Or, here's a really scary thought: Condoleeza Rice.

We should be doing every thing we can to destroy any Republican who has the possibility of getting the Republican nomination. It's the way the Republicans play the game and it is time that we used their own techniques against them.

Don't forget that the Republicans wailed on Howard Dean mercilessly when he was the Democratic front-runner. If you remember, they attacked him because his wife wasn't out campaigning with him. (She was at home caring for the kids and her patients.)

These days, it is never too early to attack a potential Republican candidate. There is nothing too dirty you can do to a Republican. We need to do it to them before they do it to us - because they will attack us whether we attack them or not.

I agree

In my mind it was merely a matter of how many we want to take out. I was thinking it would be better to take out the complete GOP 2008 ticket by holding fire until they chose someone. I think this is what Bush did in 2004. The Bushies savaged Dean because they knew they couldn't beat him and helped con us Democrats into selecting the "electable Senator" John Kerry then they attacked. I voted for Edwards in my primary because I wanted him to be the VP candidate (I had been a Deaniac).

By attacking early I would be concerned that the attacks could improve the GOP ticket by loping off easily beaten candidates: remember will still have to expect we'll be fighting the corporate media.

Of course if recent events play out the way we Progressives hope and pray they do it may look like 1974 at the RNC.

A Rice-Clinton race would be interesting. I think being Natioanl Security Advisor during the worst intelligence/security failure in US history may make Rice unelectible. There are enough African-Americans who know the term "just because you're my skinfolk don't mean you're kinfolk". Adding incompetence to her being a female make her a tough sell in todays fear based world. I hate to say that but it's true. I salivate over the ads one could write.

Perhaps our best strategy would be to help elements of the GOP attack John McCain (as a Vietnam era traitor which my former GS GOP father-in-law beleives) and keep him from being the GOP candidate. He is after all a hardcore conservative who can/does attract middle of the road folks back to the GOP.

I agree that the hard-right, cronyist tendencies of the Bush administration put the GOP in jeopardy in 2006 and 2008. I'd like to see them stay the course. So far they've done a real good job of this.

I'd like to figure out some way to get them to nominate Alan Keys for Presiddent and Phyllis Schlafly for VP. That would be a loser ticket for sure.

I agree with NOTHING Alan Keys says. But, he is brilliant, an incredible speaker and campaigner, with more charisma than anyone I can think of on the Republican side.

The reason he would be a bigtime loser is that he holds the same extreme positions held by the rest of the Republicans, but, he has the integrity to state his positions and argue for them instead of lying so that he doesn's seem so exteme the way that Bush does.

Isn't that weird? Allan Keys - the Republican with the most intelligence, charisma, and raw political talent is unellectible because he has too much integrity?

Of course, there's another issue: The Republicans came to power with the Southern strategy of inviting segregationist (bigot) whites into the Republican Party. So, I don't think that anyone other than a white person could get the Republican nomination for President - no matter how talented they are!!

Even if they could nominate Condoleeza, Alan Keys, or Colin Powell (or any Republican black), they would lose more Southern whites than they would gain blacks - so they would go down in flames in the general election.

My theory about Colin Powell is that he would like to be president - but only as a Republican. He knows he can't get the Republican nomination. So, he demures by claiming that he doesn't want to be president.

It is truly sad what has happened to the Republican Party. My friend's mother seconded the nomination of Dwight Eisenhower for president at the 1956 Republican National Convention. That made her the first African-American to address a national political party in the U. S.